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 Post subject: horn strap screw
PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 6:16 am 
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Anyone know the size of the screw for the ABII horn strap hole or what size to redrill the hole? I looked around and couldn't find the dimensions.

I stripped the screw hole last night while jumping around on stage with red bull and out popped the strap nut. I already got a toothpick and would glue in the hole so i could just use the dimension.

To end the story, after this happened several times last night, my singer in his infinite wisdom comes out with a roll of duct tape. In a panic, with the screw inserted, wrapped the horn nut with strap attached to the body and played kneeling the rest of the set. i was crying inside...

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 Post subject: Re: horn strap screw
PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 7:23 am 
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I would drill a pilot hole smaller than the screw and then put it in.

I'd rip my singer's arm off if he came at my bass with duct tape!


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 Post subject: Re: horn strap screw
PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 7:52 am 
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It's basically a course drywall screw. See:
http://www.dingwallguitars.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=218&hilit=drywall

Yeah - I'd slap somebody silly for even offering duct tape.


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 Post subject: Re: horn strap screw
PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 8:03 am 
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He's a vocalist. He wouldn't know better ;)

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 Post subject: Re: horn strap screw
PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 10:34 am 
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Duct tape is a pretty standard "emergency method" for holding on a strap in this type of situation, gaff tape is probably better but not always around. Either way, it's not going to do any permanent harm to a bass unless it's left on there for a long time.


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 Post subject: Re: horn strap screw
PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 10:49 am 
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Yikes...other than the strap screw...how is the AB II working out?

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 Post subject: Re: horn strap screw
PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 1:03 pm 
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She sounds amazing! Ive been running her through a carbine 6 and an Ampeg 410 hlf and she sounds great live. We recently did some recording and went DI into a API 512 and distressorand the tapping came out smooth and clear with lowends really coming out full.
The only thing missing is the 6th string but santa is coming.

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 Post subject: Re: horn strap screw
PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 4:11 pm 
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Get trim head stainless screws (preferrably star drive) and you'll never have trouble again.

The screws I use have a really coarse thread that holds incredibly well in the end-grain where strap buttons are located. The trim head is smaller in proportion to the diameter of the screw, so they will work with either Dunlop or Schaller straplocks.

You might have to grab the strap button with pliers and drive the screw through -- the threads are significantly bigger

I just swapped my strap button screws out from square drive screws to star (T15) drive, but I've been using the trim screws for a while.

One of the old screws was BENT, but it had never come loose whatsoever -- so they will hold up to a fair amount of jumping around onstage!


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 Post subject: Re: horn strap screw
PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 6:57 pm 
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Or, you could just jump around less... :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: horn strap screw
PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 10:09 am 
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Smallmouth_Bass wrote:
Or, you could just jump around less... :wink:


Why on Earth would you wanna do that?

Saying I move around alot on stage is an understatement. I haven't had this issue yet with my ABZ, but I noticed the screws getting loose on my old bass, so I filled the hole with 2-part epoxy and put the screw back in and whiped off the excess glue. Never had any problems since, and I'll never need to take it out. I need the security, when you toss a bass guitar behind your back (I don't care what the cost is) you get a little sketched out. But you get used to it. :D


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 Post subject: Re: horn strap screw
PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 12:58 pm 
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Tyler wrote:
...when you toss a bass guitar behind your back...


I've never quite understood the fascination with that move, but to each their own!


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I'm all about jumping around and getting into the groove but i've learned the hard way when treating my instruments like lightsabers.

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 Post subject: Re: horn strap screw
PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 8:05 am 
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Smallmouth_Bass wrote:
Tyler wrote:
...when you toss a bass guitar behind your back...


I've never quite understood the fascination with that move, but to each their own!


Showmanship. Its fun to do, and its fun for the audience. It's like when your favorite sports team has that KILLER play and you can't help but stand up and scream and shout on how awesome that was. Its something unexpected, especially for a bassist. And its really chanllenging to learn how to play and time certain moves with the song and how to make sure your playing isn't sacrificed.


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 Post subject: Re: horn strap screw
PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 1:01 pm 
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...or your bass isn't sacrificed!


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 Post subject: Re: horn strap screw
PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 2:37 pm 
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Tyler wrote:
Smallmouth_Bass wrote:
Tyler wrote:
...when you toss a bass guitar behind your back...


I've never quite understood the fascination with that move, but to each their own!


Showmanship. Its fun to do, and its fun for the audience. It's like when your favorite sports team has that KILLER play and you can't help but stand up and scream and shout on how awesome that was. Its something unexpected, especially for a bassist. And its really chanllenging to learn how to play and time certain moves with the song and how to make sure your playing isn't sacrificed.


I tried it ONCE. My strap caught on my shirt and the bass hit me in the head. It hurt. :( I didn't drop my bass, but it was an el-cheapo Squire P, so I wasn't worried even if I did.

You know the rules Tyler: "no pics, no bass", or in this case: no video, no "fancy showmanship dance moves". I'll believe you when I see it. :P (Maybe you could post an instructional video. ;) )

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 Post subject: Re: horn strap screw
PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 9:00 am 
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Matt, how about YOU come to my bands next show and take some video to post up here. Then not only will I have the footage to show, I'll have an eye witness to back me up. lol, ya I like that idea.

As for photos, I tried to upload a couple, but they were too big, and I'm not computer savvy enough to make it work. So, if you REALLY want to see that I do actually own an ABZ, there's some photo's up on our bands facebook page. www.facebook.com/myconstantmusic. Or just search "My Constant".


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 Post subject: Re: horn strap screw
PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 3:49 pm 
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Lol, easy there, I was just joking around. :) I absolutely believe you have an ABZ, and I have little doubt in your stage moves, I'm just saying it didn't work for me, that's all. Just jokes. :)

If you want me to film your next gig, shoot me a pm. I'll come.

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